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music [Jan. 28th, 2009|07:39 pm]
cunts talking about kant


hey guys, it's been a while since anyone has posted.
i would like to discuss the philosophy of music.

over winter break i was able to become closer friends with my best friend's roommate ken. ken is a brilliant guitarist who has been intensely studying music theory for the last 5 years. we got into a lot of philosophical discussions about the place of music in the cosmos, and why it has such a profound place in the human soul/condition. so i want to hear your thoughts on the philosophical implications of why music is so important to us as a species, how music influences you, and why it is important to you.

here are a couple things to get this conversation started:

"There are two things that don’t have to mean anything; one is music, the other is laughter." - Immanuel Kant

...From the Wikipedia page on Pythagoras:

"Pythagoras was very interested in music, and so were his followers. The Pythagoreans were musicians as well as mathematicians. Pythagoras wanted to improve the music of his day, which he believed was not harmonious enough and was too hectic.

According to legend, the way Pythagoras discovered that musical notes could be translated into mathematical equations was when one day he passed blacksmiths at work, and thought that the sounds emanating from their anvils being hit were beautiful and harmonious and decided that whatever scientific law caused this to happen must be mathematical and could be applied to music. He went to the blacksmiths to learn how this had happened by looking at their tools, he discovered that it was because the anvils were "simple ratios of each other, one was half the size of the first, another was 2/3 the size, and so on." (See Pythagorean tuning.)

The Pythagoreans elaborated on a theory of numbers, the exact meaning of which is still debated among scholars. Pythagoras believed in something called the "harmony of the spheres." He believed that the planets and stars moved according to mathematical equations, which corresponded to musical notes and thus produced a symphony."

Some interesting books:


[User Picture]From: upanishadic
2009-01-29 06:25 pm (UTC)
yeah this is really interesting. how does this tie into the emotional development of each person? I believe people listen to music sometimes for emotional outlet, and it's funny because in my post below i talked about how vibration creates form... they did this one experiment somewhere where they had two separate freezer rooms and they put glasses of lukewarm water in each room. One room was silent, one room blasted classical music, and one blasted heavy metal or something loud like that. They compared the patterns of crystallization in each glass of ice and the differences were extraordinary-- the heavy metal music was all disarrayed and the classical music had beautiful symmetry in the crystals.
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[User Picture]From: coldstilllife
2009-01-29 06:26 pm (UTC)
Perhaps this is why I'm such a strange person. My musical taste doesn't seem to follow any specific path.
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[User Picture]From: upanishadic
2009-01-29 06:27 pm (UTC)
i'm sure there is a connection between musical preference and dimension of personality. what that connection is, i have no idea.
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[User Picture]From: coldstilllife
2009-01-29 06:30 pm (UTC)
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